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| seb2159 | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 28615 messages postés |
|  Posté le 26-12-2007 à 20:03:38   
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| JLLEMEY | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 13914 messages postés |
| Posté le 26-12-2007 à 20:07:14
| Strass65 a écrit :
mes nouveaux nourriciers 
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et qu'est ce que tu va nourricier avec ça ??? |
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| JLLEMEY | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 13914 messages postés |
| Posté le 26-12-2007 à 20:12:56
| Racer a écrit :
Bon alors j'ai eu le président du club du racer au téléphone.
Il me confirme que le standard français demande des males de 480/540 grammes et des femelles de 425/480 grammes.
Il admet que les sujets un peu lourds sont souvent les plus beaux.
Lorsque je lui parle du standard américain de 481/623, il est étonné que cela ne corresponde pas et me confirme que le standard américain devrait être le référence. Me dis qu'il y a du avoir à un moment une erreur de transcription...
Cette question fera donc l'objet d'un débat au sein du club afin de décider des orientations que l'on doit donner à ce point de selection.
A ce sujet, réunion technique du club dimanche de 9h30 à 11 h 45, cité Jeanne d'Arc, Saint-avold.
C'est bien. Je suis juste super étonné que personne n'ai relevé ce problème avant...  |
et aujourd'huis  s'en est ou??? |
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| giant homer 3 | | seul on n'est rien ;) | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 19246 messages postés |
| Posté le 26-12-2007 à 21:48:00
|  quel dimanche RACER
pour ce qui est du problème c'est toi qui l'a vu  donc tu est le meilleur
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| Racer | | -Club Français du Show Racer- | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 6941 messages postés |
| Posté le 02-01-2008 à 15:56:40 
| C'était la réunion de l'année dernière....
Pour répondre à JL, la question du poids ainsi que d'autres points devrait faire prochainement l'objet de modifications au sein du standard....
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| JLLEMEY | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 13914 messages postés |
| Posté le 03-11-2008 à 17:45:14
| The Written American Show Racer Standard
Adopted by the membership of the American Show Racer Association
September 20, 1993
Head
Profile rising gradually and smoothly, in an unbroken curve from the top of the beak to the highest point just above the center of the eye/ then descending gradually and smoothly, flowing into the neck and providing a full and balanced back skull. Minimum distance from the tip of the beak to the center of the eye shall be one and one-half Inches. Top view must show good width at the back of the head and between the eyes, narrowing gradually from the back smoothly toward the wattle and showing no angularity in outline with no pinching between the eye and the wattle. Across the crown should be convex from above the eye on one side to above the eye on the other side. This should not be flat or square. The whole head should express strength with no sign of weakness, thinness or sharp angles. A crest is a serious fault.
Beak
Medium in length, stout and straight set. Both mandibles of nearly equal substance, set smoothly into the face with no broken outline. Upper and lower mandibles should fit closely with no sign of gaping or crossing. An imaginary line extended through the mandible seam should extend through the center of the eye. The beak may vary in color from dark in standard blue colors to amber in reds, to flesh color In Dilutes, Whites and in some Splashes or Rares.
Wattle
Medium in size, smooth in texture and free from coarseness. It should fit smoothly between the head and the beak in profile and top view. Both sides should be of equal substance. In both top and front views, wattle should appear even, balanced and heart shaped with no pronounced split or feather growth between the halves. The wattle should fit smoothly with the feathers surrounding it. Any naturally exposed skin under and around the lower mandible should be small, smooth in texture, free from coarseness and not obvious to the casual glance.
Eye
Bright, fiery and sharp in appearance. Bright blood to dark red. or chestnut preferred. Gravel, pale, broken or odd marked eyes are a serious fault. Both eyes must be the same color. Eye color to be compatible with the color and associated genetic factors of the bird. A bull eye or solid black eye is permissible in Whites and Splashes. False pearl eyes are acceptable in brown birds.
Eye Cere
Small, smooth, neat and finely laced, dark or plum color preferred, slightly narrower at the back of the eye. A light or flesh colored cere is acceptable when it compliments the bird's color such as in Dilutes, some Rare colors, Whites and/or White Splashes. Cere should not be obvious to the casual glance.
Neck
In profile, cut straight back from bottom of the lower mandible to a throat that is free from gullet and thickness, then descending in a smooth curve to a broad chest. On the back side, it should descend from a full back skull in a slight but smooth curve, blending into broad shoulders. It should be stout, of medium length and with no sign of loose feathers or neck creases. Crescent or frill is a serious fault.
Back
Short, flat and broad across the shoulders and tapering smoothly to the rump. Strong and well padded as it approaches the rump with no indication of indentation or weakness.
Rump
Well padded and sturdy, showing no signs of weakness, flatness or excessive width. Tapering smoothly into the tail. Slightly convex from side to side.
Vent Bones
Vent bones should show strength and be fairly close to the end of the keel, allowing no more than 3/4" between the end of the keel and the vent bones. Hens may be allowed a little leeway on this, but should not exceed 1".
Keel
Keel (breastbone) shall be centered in the body and curve smoothly from the chest up toward the vent bones. It should show no wave, indentation or crookedness. It should be three to four inches in length. It should be of good structure, not prominent but fleshed out, giving the feeling of a smooth roundness from side to side. Keel should not be too deep or too shallow.
Wings
Strong and powerful, held close to the body, just above the tail, with thick and fairly prominent butts. Primary and secondary flights should be wide in web, closely overlapping, with length in keeping with the size of the body. Quills should be strong and steel like. Coverts should be broad, of good length and thickness, covering well over the rump. There should be ten primary and ten secondary flights In each wing. Primary flights not completely grown out, as long as the bird is molting evenly, should not be considered a major fault ASR feathers should be free from holes, fret marks and any other damage.
Tail
Twelve strong feathers, close fitting and overlapping to give the appearance of one feather; short In proportion to the size of the bird and extending slightly beyond the flights 1/2" to 1" at most and fitting smoothly into the rump.
Legs and Feet
Free from feathers on the lower legs and feet. Feathers should be close fitting on the upper leg, at hocks and between legs. Legs should be bent at hocks with thighs well set back, strong and muscular and medium to short in length. Feet and legs should be dark to bright red. Toe nails sharp and of all the same color. Color may vary from dark to black in standard blue colored birds, to amber in Ash Reds, to flesh colored in Whites and some Splashes.
Carriage or Station
Erect and bold, with line from the center of the eye to the tip of the tail being at about a 45-degree angle. Tip of tall should be approximately 3/4"' from the ground. Bird should exhibit well balanced conformation. The entire picture should be one of alertness and of proud and showy carriage.
Color / Marking
ASR colors in standard color classes should be true with a clear, sharp definition of pattern, without whiteness, lightness or smoke and with solid backs, flanks, thighs, rumps, and bellies. Refer to color guideline for more details.
Condition
Sound, firm of flesh, neither underweight nor overweight, feathers smooth and slippery, carriage alert and vital. Entire picture of health and energy.
Body
The body as a whole presents a smoothly tapered, wedge shaped appearance that is clearly felt in the hand. It begins with a good, broad chest and tapers to a narrow rump. It should be well fleshed and solid with a feeling of strength and smoothness, not fat. It should be neither too deep nor too shallow.
Size / Weight
Medium size bird is preferred and when in show condition should weigh between 17 and 22 ounces. Height to be 9". Slight over or under size, or over or under weight, should not eliminate a bird if otherwise near perfection. Both judges and breeders should make a sincere effort to adhere to the standard size and weight.
Behavior
Cool, generally unperturbed, without undue nervousness, wildness or panting and with no flying or climbing and no excessive pacing of the judging pen.
Disqualifications
Judges may disqualify for sickness, trimming, deformity, severe out of condition from dirt, disease or parasites.
Color Classes
Blue Bar, Blue Check, Dark Check, Black Check, Red Bar, Red Check, Grizzle, Dominant Opal, Yellow, Silver, Rare, Splash or Pied, Mismarked.
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Point System
Total of 100 points to be divided as follows:
Head
10
Beak
6
Wattle
3
Eye
5
Eye Cere
3
Neck
5
Back
3
Rump
4
Vent Bones
4
Keel
4
Wings
6
Tail
4
Legs/Feet
5
Carriage/Station
10
Color/Marking
5
Condition
7
Body
7
Size/Weight
5
Behavior 4
4
Total 100
100
Birds will not be judged by points. The point system is intended as a guideline showing the relative importance of characteristics. This may best be used in breeding.
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| le chardon | | à la recherche du standard | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 73191 messages postés |
| Posté le 03-11-2008 à 18:46:54
| et en belge, ça dit quoi
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| giant homer 3 | | seul on n'est rien ;) | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 19246 messages postés |
| Posté le 03-11-2008 à 19:26:13
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| cologne | | Grand maitre |  | | 4846 messages postés |
| Posté le 04-11-2008 à 21:28:39
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| JLLEMEY | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 13914 messages postés |
| Posté le 04-11-2008 à 23:11:02
| le chardon a écrit :
et en belge, ça dit quoi |
quelque chose comme ça .................
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| le chardon | | à la recherche du standard | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 73191 messages postés |
| Posté le 05-11-2008 à 07:47:30
|   très joli
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| giant homer 3 | | seul on n'est rien ;) | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 19246 messages postés |
| Posté le 05-11-2008 à 09:04:02
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| Racer | | -Club Français du Show Racer- | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 6941 messages postés |
| Posté le 05-11-2008 à 11:05:45
| Si seulement nous pouvions ne serait-ce que prendre en main un tel sujet....
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| CAPUMAN | | Le vengeur masqué | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 35666 messages postés |
| Posté le 05-11-2008 à 19:30:56
| JLLEMEY a écrit :
quelque chose comme ça .................
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ça j'aime
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Capu... What else ? |
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| cologne | | Grand maitre | | | 4846 messages postés |
| Posté le 05-11-2008 à 19:45:59
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| frederic | | Gourou Pigeonneux |  | | 7893 messages postés |
| Posté le 05-11-2008 à 21:39:04
| CAPUMAN a écrit :
[citation=JLLEMEY]
quelque chose comme ça .................
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ça j'aime :love:[/citation] je pense qu'il faut aller chercher les billets d'avion pour un truc comme cela
Edité le 05-11-2008 à 21:39:52 par frederic
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| Racer | | -Club Français du Show Racer- | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 6941 messages postés |
| Posté le 07-11-2008 à 10:26:22
| C'est fait....
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| JLLEMEY | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 13914 messages postés |
| Posté le 07-11-2008 à 17:51:13
| le chardon a écrit :
très joli |
tu vois que tu fait vite des progrés en anglais !
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| JLLEMEY | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 13914 messages postés |
| Posté le 08-04-2009 à 22:29:52
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| le chardon | | à la recherche du standard | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 73191 messages postés |
| Posté le 09-04-2009 à 10:01:18
| superbe sujet qu'il me semble déjà connaître car à part les morilles un peu trop développées.....peut-être à cause de son âge   il est très beau bravo, mon JL
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| frederic | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 7893 messages postés |
| Posté le 09-04-2009 à 12:21:47
| JLLEMEY a écrit :
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sa c'est un mosellant |
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| CAPUMAN | | Le vengeur masqué | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 35666 messages postés |
| Posté le 09-04-2009 à 18:25:28
| très beau pigeon
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| cologne | | Grand maitre | | | 4846 messages postés |
| Posté le 09-04-2009 à 21:29:19
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| Racer | | -Club Français du Show Racer- | | Gourou Pigeonneux | | | 6941 messages postés |
| Posté le 20-04-2009 à 11:54:42
| C'est vrai qu'il est beau l'animal !
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